Episode 43 chat log
ByThe chat got pretty heated during the show tonight – so I decided to copy and paste the entire IRC conversation for your enjoyment. It would be best to read through this WHILE listening to the podcast to get the full effect
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[18:59.46] <@Ohiodevil> !NEXT
[18:59.53] <@Omn1Slash> !next
[18:59.56] <@Ohiodevil> ![]()
[18:59.59] <@Harmack> fuck off asses
[19:00.07] <@Ohiodevil> www.theescapeshow.com
[19:00.15] <@Ohiodevil> www.thereelreview.net
[19:00.23] <@Omn1Slash> stop spamming
[19:00.25] <@Ohiodevil> ![]()
[19:00.45] <@Ohiodevil> it’s midget porn!!!
[19:01.00] <@Omn1Slash> dont spam during other shows you ass
[19:01.12] <@Ohiodevil> thank you!
[19:01.33] <@Ohiodevil> www.bareassonharmack.com
[19:01.45] <@Omn1Slash> for example, spamming would be www.harmacksteenyweenydingus.com
[19:01.58] <@Omn1Slash> just to clarify.
[19:02.08] <@UnknownGamer> www.harmacksplugedonmycouch.org
[19:02.32] <@UnknownGamer> Please donate to help our cause.
[19:02.35] <@Omn1Slash> http:// is not required but not necessary
[19:02.50] <@Ohiodevil> Console games SUCK
[19:02.57] <@Ohiodevil> excapt Fable
[19:03.11] <@Omn1Slash> dont get me started…
[19:03.44] <@Ohiodevil> Tas doesnt know what he’s talking about…he likes frackin Nickelback
[19:03.53] <@Omn1Slash> get off the pot plants Tas, remember last week when you discussed this
[19:04.11] <@Ohiodevil> see what happens when you listen to nickelback?
[19:04.12] <@Omn1Slash> tomorrow he’ll be going “a debate between me and Mike over nickelback?”
[19:04.14] <@Ohiodevil> your brain turns to mush
[19:04.51] <@Ohiodevil> thats cuz you are a pea brain harmack
[19:05.02] <@Omn1Slash> I prefer my Game and Watch
[19:05.23] <@Omn1Slash> its called Multi tasking.
[19:05.54] <@Omn1Slash> LOL
[19:05.57] <@Omn1Slash> The Nintendo Cube
[19:06.09] <@Omn1Slash> The Nintendo “Cube” was not around during the era of the PS1
[19:06.25] <@UnknownGamer> Patters… Ps1 came out in 1995 Gamecube 2001…
[19:06.37] <@UnknownGamer> 6 YEARS
[19:07.00] <@Omn1Slash> PS2 was the rival of the “Nintendo Cube”
[19:07.21] <@Omn1Slash> lol Harmack is reading facts from Harmackapedia.com
[19:07.40] <@UnknownGamer> Online came out for ps2 and xbox after 1 year the consoles came out
[19:07.45] <@Omn1Slash> XBOX live came 2 years after the debut of the console, although that might be halfway through the console life cycle
[19:07.56] <@UnknownGamer> Harmack go back to wikipedia and check ur dumbfounded facts
[19:07.57] <@tas> :p
[19:08.30] <@Omn1Slash> LOL Harmack thought the Micresooft SexBox was the best console
[19:08.54] <@UnknownGamer> Harmack is still waiting for the PSX
[19:08.58] * P_Flux (~P_Flux@adsl-065-012-197-128.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #gnetradio
[19:08.59] * ChanServ sets mode: +v P_Flux
[19:09.19] <+P_Flux> Hey everyone
[19:09.33] <@Omn1Slash> oh wait
[19:09.34] <@Omn1Slash> that reminds me
[19:09.36] <@Omn1Slash> I stand corrected
[19:09.42] <@Omn1Slash> Harmack bought the FluxBox
[19:09.51] <+P_Flux> Fluxbox?
[19:09.55] <@Omn1Slash> LOL Harmack thought PSX was X rated
[19:10.02] <+P_Flux> You mean a 360?
[19:10.12] <@Omn1Slash> Fluxxy, Harmack is giving us some great facts from Harmakapedia.com
[19:10.27] <@Omn1Slash> did you know that the Nintendo Cube and the PS1 were great compeititors?
[19:10.32] <@Ohiodevil> BOOOO Tas!
[19:10.34] <@Ohiodevil> ![]()
[19:11.04] <@Omn1Slash> WOW NORD
[19:11.34] <@Omn1Slash> According to Harmackapedia.com, the Analog Controller came out with the Black and White TV
[19:11.44] <@Ohiodevil> Harmack put the “GAY” in Gaming
[19:11.55] <@Omn1Slash> LOL Harmack the PS1 came out AFTER the SNES anyway
[19:12.01] <+Wae> why is ug on the oc?
[19:12.05] <@Omn1Slash> so you basically upgraded 1 generation! oh lol
[19:12.07] <@Ohiodevil> ratings
[19:12.22] <+Wae> PC PC PC PC PC PC
[19:12.26] <@Ohiodevil> PC PC PC
[19:12.32] <@Mhykol> I wish another console fan would call it
[19:12.34] <@Mhykol> in*
[19:12.45] <+Wae> call al
[19:13.16] <@Omn1Slash> nah, I’m not about to get mad tonight
[19:13.23] <@Omn1Slash> welL I cant even say mad
[19:13.27] <@Omn1Slash> but I dont want anybody else to get mad
[19:13.36] <@Harmack> just do it
[19:13.39] <@Omn1Slash> I’ve got a one track mind when it comes to this topic
[19:13.41] <+Wae> portal prelude
[19:13.42] <@Harmack> pussy
[19:14.05] <@Omn1Slash> and I dont have all my facts in front of me 100% and I dont want to look up Harmakapedia
[19:14.05] <@Omn1Slash> lol
[19:14.06] <+Wae> whats wrong with gta4 for pc ? ive no problems with it just slow first load
[19:14.19] <+Wae> about that l33t campcom beta infos?
[19:14.19] <@Omn1Slash> thats because its a damn port
[19:14.29] <@Harmack> whatever
[19:14.36] <@Omn1Slash> in the same retro spect why a console based game made for the PC sucks, ala Street Fighter IV
[19:15.11] <+Wae> well that brings the hole fighting game on pc bunk
[19:15.17] <+Wae> its like shooters on consoles ;-p
[19:15.26] <@Omn1Slash> 3K? UG, get off of Harmackapedia ![]()
[19:15.48] <@Harmack> one day, i hope to be taken seriously on this station
[19:15.49] <+Wae> wheres the love for portal prelude on consoles
[19:15.59] <+Wae> never gonna happy windy
[19:16.08] <@UnknownGamer> my mistake 2K
[19:16.11] <@Omn1Slash> lol
[19:16.31] <@Omn1Slash> well they need to stop with the fucking ports
[19:16.33] <@Ohiodevil> EQ was freaking amazing
[19:16.37] <@Ohiodevil> they did
[19:16.38] <@Omn1Slash> why in the hell would you want EQ on the PS2 anyway
[19:16.43] <@Ohiodevil> EQ Online Adventures
[19:16.54] <@Omn1Slash> the same reason FFXI didnt work on the consoles either
[19:17.02] <@Omn1Slash> no, it sucked on the PS2
[19:17.04] <+Wae> because they tried to bring the online groups together
[19:17.13] <+Wae> deadair
[19:17.16] <@Omn1Slash> Harmack, I BETA’ed the PS2 verison AND the PC version
[19:17.31] <@Omn1Slash> trust me, I beta’ed them both. the PC one was much better. Try linkshelling on the PS2
[19:17.51] <+Wae> so i finally own guitar hero
[19:17.53] <@Omn1Slash> I don’t normally say the PC anything is better, but FFXI was better on PC because its MADE for the PC
[19:17.59] <+Wae> picked up world tour band kit for $90
[19:18.08] <@Omn1Slash> good deal, Wae
[19:18.22] <+Wae> yeah
[19:18.26] <+Wae> couldn’t pass on it
[19:18.27] <@Omn1Slash> FFXI was good, but I refuse to pay $15 for it
[19:18.37] <@Omn1Slash> especially when I beta’ed that game for many many hours
[19:18.40] <+Wae> now to wiat for rockband 2 game to get back to $15 again
[19:18.50] <@Omn1Slash> shoulda had my damn name in the credits
[19:18.56] <+Wae> did you not get thnked?
[19:19.15] <+Wae> cause i got thanked for betaing xbox live sorta kinda not really but they said “thanks to our beta testers”
[19:19.18] <@Omn1Slash> I got a free PS2 hard drive outta it
[19:19.21] <@Omn1Slash> that supported one fucking game.
[19:19.35] <@Omn1Slash> and then my PS2 fat died
[19:19.36] <+Wae> . . . . eq/uo had plenty of lil kids on em
[19:19.36] <@Omn1Slash> lol
[19:19.48] <+Wae> ps2 has hds?
[19:19.54] <@Omn1Slash> just for FFXI
[19:19.56] <+Wae> i remember when they brought the online adapter for socom
[19:20.03] <+Wae> and it failed and live just laughed
[19:20.05] <@UnknownGamer> PS2 Hard Drive supported both resident evil outbreakes
[19:20.09] <@Omn1Slash> FFXI was the only game that supported it unless you modd’ed your PS2
[19:20.10] <@UnknownGamer> outbreaks*
[19:20.13] <@Omn1Slash> ok, yeah, UG is right
[19:20.18] <+Wae> what was it for?
[19:20.18] <@Omn1Slash> but that was about it
[19:20.22] <@Omn1Slash> faster loading
[19:20.23] <+Wae> save game space or something else?
[19:20.30] <+Wae> oh did it actually work?
[19:20.34] <@UnknownGamer> loading was plenty and a bitch in that game
[19:20.39] <@Omn1Slash> yeah, FFXI was too big to load off of DVD
[19:20.43] <+Wae> gotcha
[19:20.45] <@Omn1Slash> there were weekly updates
[19:20.51] <@Omn1Slash> that were about 500 megs
[19:21.01] <@Omn1Slash> at least during beta
[19:21.16] <@Omn1Slash> I still have my FFXI beta disc
[19:21.22] <@Omn1Slash> I wonder if that will be worth money any time soon
[19:21.28] <+Wae> for consoles to overtake PC they’ll have to do upgradable graphics
[19:21.50] <@Omn1Slash> consoles and PC will become unified, there will be no takeover
[19:21.59] <+Wae> as al always bitches pcs are upgradeable every 6 months
[19:22.00] <+Wae> progress
[19:22.09] <+Wae> i sorta think that too
[19:22.16] <+Wae> they’ll mesh the games more
[19:22.24] <@Omn1Slash> look at On LIVE
[19:22.28] <+P_Flux> Cant you just go and download and burn most 360 or PS3 games?
[19:22.28] <@Omn1Slash> thats the future of gamingt
[19:22.35] <+Wae> if it works
[19:22.36] <@Omn1Slash> not w/o a mod chip
[19:22.41] <+Wae> still havent seen it myself
[19:22.43] <@Omn1Slash> oh it works, they verified that at E3
[19:22.48] <+Wae> ah
[19:22.50] <@Omn1Slash> however, its up to the internet companies
[19:22.55] <@Omn1Slash> because if they start capping internet downloads
[19:23.10] <@Omn1Slash> unless they make special exceptions for gaming, thats gonna push that system off for a while
[19:23.15] <+Wae> do they not know that 360s and PS3s have already been cracked?
[19:23.24] <@Omn1Slash> yes, but you need chips and soldering
[19:23.29] <+Wae> meh
[19:23.31] <@Omn1Slash> Wii you don’t need that, you can soft mod
[19:23.32] <+Wae> easy
[19:23.39] <@Mhykol> I’m going to have to play the console side ![]()
[19:23.39] <@Omn1Slash> and MS will ban you off LIVE
[19:23.43] <+Wae> my friends 360 is softmodded i think
[19:23.55] <+Wae> thats if you use live opposed to system link :-p
[19:24.02] <+Wae> HOLY SHIT TAS BOUGHT A GAME!!!!!!!!
[19:24.05] <@Omn1Slash> I wont mod my 360, especially after I paid $50 for a year of LIVE
[19:24.15] <+P_Flux> Nope
[19:24.16] <@Omn1Slash> your paying for non lag servers
[19:24.28] <+Wae> $50 shit its like $38 right now
[19:24.37] <@Omn1Slash> you can play for free on PS3 and Wii, but you’ll get lag and a sub par messaging system
[19:24.40] <+Wae> you need to start watching the deal site als
[19:24.48] <@Omn1Slash> I know
[19:24.54] <@Omn1Slash> you dont think I’m kicking myself for it
[19:24.55] <+Wae> yeah wii wifi is shitty when used with my wifi
[19:24.57] <+P_Flux> You dont have to play for any equiptment upgrade when you get different console titles
[19:24.59] <@Omn1Slash> Amazon has it for $27 this week
[19:25.09] <+Wae> dont have to on pc unless you want to
[19:25.12] <+Wae> yeah
[19:25.23] <@Omn1Slash> I think Xbox Live is worth it
[19:25.25] <+Wae> they had gh:world tour for $90 monday
[19:25.40] <@Omn1Slash> yeah< i hate paying for it, but, I know when I DO play it, it works flawlessly
[19:25.45] <+Wae> Hellgate London failed miserably at that but FreeRealms is doing great
[19:25.47] <@Omn1Slash> and PS3, while it works good, its not perfectr
[19:26.03] <@Omn1Slash> and you know that Harmack with Tiger 09
[19:26.28] <+Wae> if a 360 could handle civ 4 + fall from heaven mod and then all the mods based on HL2 engine i’d be happy
[19:26.48] <+Wae> did he jsut say “coding for certain monitors?”
[19:26.54] <+Wae> and hard drives?
[19:26.57] <+Wae> seriosuly harmack
[19:27.01] <@Mhykol> haha
[19:27.13] <+Wae> “nvidia the way its ment to be played” is a slogan
[19:27.20] * @Omn1Slash kicks my Radeon
[19:27.23] * +Wae sighs
[19:27.29] <+Wae> my radeon is great
[19:27.32] <+Wae> . . . .
[19:27.34] <+Wae> HARMACK STFU
[19:27.35] <+Wae> NOW
[19:27.38] <@Harmack> nope
[19:27.41] <+P_Flux> That also depends on how up to date your software is for that video card
[19:27.45] <+Wae> 4890 > nvidia
[19:27.56] <+Wae> 4890 CF oc’d cheaper and better
[19:28.15] <+Wae> gta 4 looks pretty on my pc
[19:28.18] <@Omn1Slash> holy crap
[19:28.19] <+Wae> mines mid range
[19:28.22] <@Omn1Slash> Wae got a bit heated
[19:28.28] <@Omn1Slash> Wae got extreme
[19:28.31] <+Wae> harmack knows nothing :-p
[19:28.37] <@Harmack> says you
[19:29.08] <+Wae> how can you say radeon is going away when the 4890 is the top card out right now
[19:29.11] <@Omn1Slash> GTA4 was a PORT
[19:29.18] <@Omn1Slash> GTA4 PC = PORT
[19:29.23] <+Wae> its priced cheaper than the nvidia clocks better and is better
[19:29.39] <@Omn1Slash> no it does not look like crap
[19:29.45] <@Omn1Slash> i’ve compared screen shots from both versions
[19:29.47] <+Wae> gta4 looks pretty
[19:29.54] <+Wae> on both
[19:30.02] * +Wae is playing it on a 4830
[19:30.09] <+P_Flux> Where doeds he get that consoles only get 7 colors? ROFL
[19:30.09] <@Omn1Slash> there are no differences, other than the fact that the PC verison is a straight up PORT
[19:30.24] <@Omn1Slash> a straight up PORT with bugs
[19:30.29] * +Wae wonders what game harmack is playing
[19:30.52] <@Omn1Slash> game companies are catering to consoles more these days because of the piracy, and because theres more money there
[19:31.01] <+P_Flux> I have always liked NVidia more then Raedon
[19:31.05] <+Wae> gta 4 pc has custom radio thus superior :-p
[19:31.20] <@Omn1Slash> and its only gonna get more console, whether theres mods or not
[19:31.26] <+Wae> . . . . .
[19:31.35] <+Wae> no no harmakc you just said it
[19:31.40] <@Omn1Slash> Give it like 5 years. Console and PC into two categories will be non existant
[19:31.42] <+Wae> nvidia chipset
[19:31.46] <+Wae> ati chipset
[19:31.50] <@Omn1Slash> the next consoles will be unfied
[19:31.55] <@Omn1Slash> *unified
[19:32.03] <@Omn1Slash> and most likely server based
[19:32.10] <+Wae> sony xbox revolution?
[19:32.21] <@Omn1Slash> well except for Nintendo’s because they are typically a generation behind
[19:32.38] <+Wae> sli itself is a problem
[19:33.16] <+Wae> maybe tas needs a better tv?
[19:33.23] <@Omn1Slash> they split off from the gamesurge central
[19:33.35] <@Omn1Slash> Tas needs to upgrade off his B&W
[19:33.41] <+P_Flux> Tas, that’s because you have your console connected to a BLACK AND WHITE TV!
[19:33.42] <@Omn1Slash> hes still mad at his Atari
[19:33.52] <+Wae> my intelivision works
[19:34.01] <+P_Flux> GET A COLOR TELEVISION TAS! Come, join us in the year 2000+
[19:34.06] <+Wae> what cards are they harmack?
[19:34.34] <+Wae> cause multi gpu setups have a higher “drop” in framerates (forgetting technical term micro stuttering?)
[19:34.42] <@Omn1Slash> yeah but how many people have that luxery UG…
[19:34.49] <@Omn1Slash> not everyone spends that kind of money on displays.
[19:34.53] <@Omn1Slash> the majority dont
[19:35.08] <+Wae> 1600p > 1080p
[19:35.11] <@Omn1Slash> you gotta look at it from a business standpoint
[19:35.23] <@Mhykol> someone fix spamserv omg
[19:35.48] <+Wae> al you gotta change the number spam boot thing
[19:35.56] <+Wae> i cant say 16oop >1o8op
[19:35.59] <@Omn1Slash> yeah let me write that down
[19:36.51] <+Wae> harmacks sorta right until you take into account the pricing itself
[19:36.53] <+P_Flux> Oh hell yeah!
[19:37.00] <@Omn1Slash> I’ve played more Wii Sports Resort than any other game this week
[19:37.05] <@Omn1Slash> and the graphics are about 7 years old
[19:37.06] <+P_Flux> I mean. Lets look at the 3 MOO games
[19:37.15] <+P_Flux> MOO 1 was the best of the 3 and had the worst graphics
[19:37.16] <+Wae> steam said they would see upwards of 3000% increases in sale when the took off 75% of the price
[19:37.17] <@Omn1Slash> oh I seriously doubt that
[19:37.41] <@Omn1Slash> start private chat rooms then
[19:37.45] <+Wae> ?
[19:37.46] <@Omn1Slash> XBOX Live has the party chats
[19:37.53] <@Omn1Slash> I think PS3 does now as well
[19:37.55] <@Omn1Slash> you dont even need Vent
[19:38.03] <+Wae> ps3 has a crappy version of a mii!!!!
[19:38.12] <@Omn1Slash> they don’t have Mii’s on PS3
[19:38.27] <@Omn1Slash> or even avatars unless you play on PS3 home
[19:38.27] <+Wae> no but you got your avatar or did they never implement that
[19:38.36] <+Wae> ah that home was free
[19:38.36] <@Omn1Slash> avatars are XBOX 360
[19:38.51] * +Wae is no where up to date on xbox
[19:39.09] <@Omn1Slash> why the hell else would you buy one? FOR GAMES
[19:39.29] <+Wae> buy one what? sorry my stream died
[19:39.29] <@Omn1Slash> its fine on the Wii
[19:39.39] <@Omn1Slash> I use the Internet channel all the damn time
[19:39.46] <+Wae> i use the news channel
[19:39.56] <+Wae> das bout it
[19:40.01] <+Wae> . . . you can hook a tv up to a pc
[19:40.09] <@Omn1Slash> or in Tas’s case, $40 Color TV’s
[19:40.14] <+Wae> heh
[19:40.39] <+Wae> then you buy a 47″ lcd tv
[19:40.45] <+Wae> and hook your pc up to that
[19:40.48] <@Omn1Slash> both PS3 and 360 and soon Wii are capable of streaming media right into your own living room
[19:40.59] <+Wae> and mid range card here can easly handle the 1080p resolution’
[19:41.09] <@Omn1Slash> 360 chat and PS3 voice chat is just as good as anything on a PC
[19:41.16] <@Omn1Slash> Hell, Wii Speak is just as good
[19:41.25] <+Wae> hows the mute features on the 360 nowadays
[19:41.30] <@Omn1Slash> easily done
[19:41.36] <+Wae> way back on xbox it was semi bitchy to mute fucktards
[19:41.54] <@Omn1Slash> why in the blue hell would I want to pay $1000 for a quality PC, then upgrade it two years later to play a supbar grpahics hog of a game
[19:42.09] <@Omn1Slash> or just pay $400 for a PS3 and just buy games
[19:42.23] <+Wae> because you again refure to spend the $400 and OC everything up to a $2500 pc
[19:42.38] <+Wae> if you want a true test
[19:42.49] <@Omn1Slash> and when I buy a 360 game, I dont have to worry about shit DRM
[19:42.51] <+Wae> compare the top of the line ps2/xbox games at the very end of their life
[19:43.00] <@Omn1Slash> I put the disc in the drive, and bam
[19:43.02] <+Wae> to the top of the line pc systems at that pont and time
[19:43.17] <@Omn1Slash> you dont think DRM is a huge issue?
[19:43.19] <+Wae> since you cant compare top ps3 or 360 yet
[19:43.25] <+Wae> DRM is easily avoided al
[19:43.28] <+Wae> ![]()
[19:43.30] <@Omn1Slash> yes
[19:43.31] <@Omn1Slash> for you
[19:43.37] <@Omn1Slash> but were talking about the GENERAL public
[19:43.45] <+Wae> they wont give a shit
[19:43.57] <@Omn1Slash> yes, they do and its evident they do because the Wii is the top selling console
[19:43.57] <+Wae> because they wont have to worry about drives disappering and stuff
[19:44.11] <+Wae> drm does not affect joe public
[19:44.18] <@Omn1Slash> not from what I read and hear
[19:44.33] <@Omn1Slash> DRM fucked up GTA 4, Simms 3, and it destroyed Spore
[19:44.34] <+Wae> what does drm mean to you al?
[19:44.49] <@Omn1Slash> its copy protection you ass
what does it mean to you?
[19:44.55] <+P_Flux> hackers
[19:44.56] <+Wae> because the people that dont want to pay for games bitch about it
[19:45.11] <+Wae> @tas i ment spend $400 on a pc and overclock it
[19:45.12] <+P_Flux> Havent you ever seen Die Hard 4.0?
[19:45.12] <@Omn1Slash> yeah but the people that DO pay have to jump through hoops
[19:45.21] <+Wae> only because spore had a shitty setup
[19:45.34] <+Wae> the most common drm that most people wont care about is installation limits
[19:45.55] <+Wae> starforce was a bitch because it would get rid of flash drives and virtual drives and was a root edit
[19:46.24] <@Omn1Slash> still, with my PS3 i put the damn game in, and it works.
[19:46.29] <@Omn1Slash> no DRM, no bullshit
[19:46.32] <+Wae> i do the same on my pc
[19:46.34] <@Omn1Slash> no upgrades
[19:46.41] <+Wae> a 47″ tv is only 1080p
[19:46.47] <+Wae> nope
[19:47.03] <+Wae> . . . tas is retarded
[19:47.10] <@tas> lol
[19:47.13] <+Wae> a 260+ can easily handle 1080o
[19:47.20] <+Wae> my 4830 can easily handle 1080p
[19:47.25] <+P_Flux> I’ve had video cards climb out of the computer and threaten to kick my ass. But never shit themselves
[19:47.38] <@Harmack> lol
[19:47.53] <@Omn1Slash> Tas, you need to forgive the Atari
[19:48.06] <+Wae> for TV its 1080p
[19:48.22] <+Wae> 1900×1080(right?)
[19:48.38] <@Omn1Slash> there will never be a clear winner
[19:48.42] <@Omn1Slash> it will merge together
[19:48.45] <+Wae> for most home users pc moitonrs its 2560×1600
[19:48.50] <+Wae> (omg not kicked)
[19:48.57] <@Omn1Slash> you will buy your system, that will eventually do everything a PC and a console can do
[19:49.07] <@Omn1Slash> and you’ll play on either a monitor or a HD TV.
[19:49.12] <@UnknownGamer> only dual dvi 30in have 2560×1600
[19:49.14] <@Omn1Slash> you’ll use a keyboard or a controller.
[19:49.27] <@Omn1Slash> bottom line
[19:49.31] <+Wae> dual link dvi yes ug
[19:49.52] <+Wae> but tas said he had a 260+ right? that can hit that res but will be lagged
[19:50.01] <@UnknownGamer> I will take a 1995 keyboard over a controller anytime
[19:50.38] * @Omn1Slash burps
[19:50.51] <+P_Flux> I gotta ask though
[19:50.54] <@Omn1Slash> I did correct you
[19:50.58] <+P_Flux> Why the hell is Eva ranting so much!?
[19:51.02] <@Omn1Slash> Nintendo Cube and PS1 were two different eras
[19:51.02] <@Ohiodevil> wah wah wah
[19:51.07] <+Wae> she can’t sing Pro?
[19:51.13] <@Omn1Slash> and PS1 followed SNES, in fact at one point PS1 WAS Snes CD
[19:51.18] <@JaK> [Orderly Chaos is playing The ESCape - Spread the Word! The ESCape on MyGNETRadio!] [Requests: Off]
[19:51.21] <+Wae> gamecube and ps1 sorta competed
[19:51.38] <@Omn1Slash> nah not really. I mean PS1 lasted a while, but more software than hardware
[19:51.48] <@JaK> [Orderly Chaos is playing Rantings of Eva - Fracture] [Requests: Off]
[19:51.50] <+Wae> yeah but smash bros > ps1 :-p
[19:52.01] <@Omn1Slash> N64 > PS1 on many levels
[19:52.04] <@Omn1Slash> cept for RPG’s
[19:52.28] <@Omn1Slash> and of course mod chips :_
[19:52.29] <@Omn1Slash> ![]()
[19:52.29] <+Wae> n64 had all the classic games remade greatly for the system
[19:52.41] <+Wae> well n64 was easier to copy games for al
[19:52.51] <+Wae> cartridges so easy to copy
[19:52.53] <@Omn1Slash> if you paid $150 for the device
[19:52.56] <+Wae> nop
[19:53.00] <+Wae> you unscrewed em
[19:53.06] <@Omn1Slash> I paid $20 for my PS1 mod chip and had it installed for free
[19:53.17] <+Wae> put the cartirdge in another case with other game and wha-la
[19:53.33] <@Omn1Slash> yeah, but how would you get new cases?
[19:53.35] <+Wae> my friend’s brother used to do that
[19:53.43] <+Wae> you go to pawn shop buy shitty games
[19:53.57] <+Wae> always felt bad for whoever rented turok and played barbie
[19:54.04] <+P_Flux> Heh
[19:54.11] <@Omn1Slash> barbie kicked ass
[19:54.43] <+Wae> but yeah al you would need the game you wanted and some old crappy one then just swap the cartridges and return the one you rented
[19:54.49] <@JaK> [Orderly Chaos is playing Rusty "Artagus" - G-Net Radio] [Requests: Off]
[19:55.19] <@JaK> [Orderly Chaos is playing Welcome to - Orderly Chaos] [Requests: Off]
[19:55.43] <@Omn1Slash> UG is PC
[19:55.58] <+P_Flux> That kinda surprises me
[19:56.06] <+P_Flux> I figured UG would be more of a console kinda guy
[19:56.28] <@Omn1Slash> the Springer Final Thought – You could spend hours debating the perks, and the things that sucks. However, in a few years, it will be UNIFIED
[19:56.54] <@Omn1Slash> Goldeneye 007 would like a word with you, Mhykol
[19:57.18] <+Wae> you know theres a source mod for goldeneye right al
[19:57.26] <@Omn1Slash> the best damn FPS ever
[19:57.27] <+P_Flux> ROFL
[19:57.31] <@Omn1Slash> in my opinion
[19:57.43] <@Omn1Slash> LOL thats because you need to aim better Mhykol!
[19:57.47] <+P_Flux> That is a great game. I still have it on my PC
[19:57.50] * +Wae doesn’t know any pros for the oc
[19:57.50] <@Omn1Slash> my accuracy is always pretty good
[19:58.06] <+P_Flux> Gears of War anyone
[19:58.17] <@Omn1Slash> GOW is over rated
[19:58.22] <@Omn1Slash> I like the game, dont get me wrong
[19:58.23] <+Wae> was never really big into gears was too short
[19:58.24] <@Omn1Slash> I own them both
[19:58.24] <@UnknownGamer> damn straight
[19:58.43] <@Omn1Slash> but there are many STUPID STUPID issues with GOW that I dont understand
[19:58.48] <+Wae> harmack just likes the fewer buttons so he doesn’t get confused
[19:59.09] <+P_Flux> I have GoW 2 sitting here, unplayed
[19:59.25] <@Omn1Slash> again, FF14 would like a word with you Mhykol
[19:59.26] <@Omn1Slash> lol
[19:59.35] <@Omn1Slash> FF14 is being developed for the PS3 and ported to the PC
[19:59.44] <@Omn1Slash> they are doing it in reverse this time
[19:59.47] <+Wae> i still dont see how its harder to develop for consoles your constrained to certain tech which can be easy yes but there are limits
[20:00.12] <@Mhykol> FF14 on the PS3 is going to suck
[20:00.13] <@Mhykol> sorry to say it
[20:00.19] <@Mhykol> on the PC it will work though
[20:00.20] <@Omn1Slash> dont doubt it til you see it
[20:00.38] <@Omn1Slash> they specifically said they are dev’ing it for PS3 and it will differ greatly from FFXI
[20:00.40] <+Wae> the whole point of consoles is that you get 3 other people next to you in the room
[20:00.42] <+P_Flux> But Harmack. When you say that. Look at the way MMO’s are evolving
[20:00.46] <+Wae> thats m favorite part about consoles
[20:00.52] <+P_Flux> I mean, have you SEEN the new Star Wars MMO?
[20:00.54] <@Omn1Slash> no harmack, 14
[20:00.57] <@Omn1Slash> 13 is not an MMO
[20:01.00] <@Omn1Slash> its 14!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:01.07] <@Omn1Slash> 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14
[20:01.19] <+P_Flux> And of course, Al’s the only one who knows the number
[20:01.21] <@Omn1Slash> Final Fantasy 14 is its OWN story
[20:01.36] <@Omn1Slash> and I dont see how the numbering system could possibly be confusing
[20:01.44] <@Omn1Slash> each number is its own fantasy, story, characters
[20:01.46] <+P_Flux> Dude
[20:01.51] <@UnknownGamer> Same races though
[20:02.01] <@Omn1Slash> yes, and thats what still makes it FF
[20:02.11] <@Omn1Slash> they take the same ELEMENTS, such as races, classes, spells, etc
[20:02.13] <+P_Flux> Trying to keep track of the Final Fantasy numbering makes my boobs hurt!
[20:02.22] <@Harmack> lol
[20:02.25] <@Omn1Slash> LOL
[20:02.32] <@Omn1Slash> WTF
[20:02.34] <@Omn1Slash> ?!?!?!
[20:02.54] <@Omn1Slash> FFXI was first on the PS2
[20:02.56] <+Wae> i bet if FF went to the wii the wii would WIN the gaming competion
[20:02.58] <@Omn1Slash> but developed for the PC
[20:03.11] <@Omn1Slash> FF is on the Wii
[20:03.27] <@Omn1Slash> but its developed by a different development team within Square Enix
[20:03.34] <@Omn1Slash> the FF games on the Wii are the Crystal Chrnicle series
[20:03.38] <@Omn1Slash> its like a spinoff
[20:03.54] <@Omn1Slash> with the exception of the FF4 sequal
[20:04.04] <+Wae> thats why games install all that shit for you mhykol
[20:04.09] <@Omn1Slash> which the original devs from the SNES game worked on it, and many of those devs are also working on FF13
[20:04.57] <@Omn1Slash> I’m happy as hell with my PS3 and it does just as much as my PC does
[20:04.59] <+Wae> where does the console “excel and the pc suck”?
[20:05.16] <@Omn1Slash> 5 pounds, yeah right, try like 10
[20:05.17] <@Omn1Slash> lol
[20:05.23] <@Omn1Slash> that thing is a beast
[20:05.44] <+P_Flux> Heh
[20:05.53] <+Wae> only 10ls?
[20:05.57] <+Wae> my case weighs 30….
[20:06.07] <@Omn1Slash> dont say that Harmack…
[20:06.16] <@Omn1Slash> FF14 again, being dev’ed for consoles.
[20:06.23] <@Omn1Slash> PORTED to PC.
[20:06.50] <@Omn1Slash> but you cant say that MMO’s are ONLY going to PC
[20:07.03] <@Omn1Slash> even Activision Blizzard is considering WOW for consoles
[20:07.24] <+Wae> the only trouble with using FF14 as a benchmark al
[20:07.29] <+P_Flux> Why would blizzard do that? Because there’s 8 people who havent played that POS game?
[20:07.35] <+Wae> is that there will be so many people who just buy it because its “final fantsy”
[20:07.43] <@Omn1Slash> yeah, but you know how Activision is Fluxxy
[20:07.50] <@Omn1Slash> look at Call of Duty 2009
[20:07.58] <@Omn1Slash> oh I’m sorry, Modern Warfare 2
[20:07.59] <+Wae> need more mmo games developed for consoles to prove they work
[20:08.04] <@Omn1Slash> this is the third year in a ROW were getting a COD game
[20:08.12] <@Omn1Slash> its the next madden
[20:08.19] <@Omn1Slash> why not do it to a multi million dollar game like WOW
[20:08.24] <+Wae> harmack that’d be fine
[20:08.26] <@Omn1Slash> sure, put it on a console, it will sell~
[20:08.30] <@Ohiodevil> we’d all become mac users
[20:08.37] <@Omn1Slash> Activision is the new EA, and trust me they will push Blizzard to the same extent
[20:08.51] <+Wae> it works right now they wont have issues
[20:08.56] <+Wae> they’ll ve fine
[20:09.12] <+Wae> then you’ll have all the other people who continue to put out fixes (probably better and faster than ms)
[20:09.27] <@Omn1Slash> MMO’s will transition
[20:09.41] <@Omn1Slash> just as Call of Duty transitioned from PC, I mean didnt COD start there?
[20:09.50] <@Omn1Slash> Thats all Activision needs to do now
[20:09.56] <+Wae> as soon as consoles get coding mods and true user content they’ll be good
[20:10.14] <@Omn1Slash> WOW 2009, Guitar Hero 343424324234324234234 and Call of Duty 2009 and dont forget next years “TREYARCH CALL OF DUTY 5!!”
[20:10.15] <+Wae> until then you gotta deal with LBP loosing all its maps
[20:10.21] <+P_Flux> Hell yeah. Look at KOTOR 2. There is a whole crew of independant developers STILL making stuff for that game
[20:10.23] <@Omn1Slash> we’ve got TWO types of COD’s now!
[20:10.32] <@Omn1Slash> TREYARCH AND INFINITY WARD
[20:10.41] <+Wae> portal prelude = proof that pc > consoles for mods
[20:10.45] <@Omn1Slash> heres a discussion for you, Activision is the new EA!!
[20:10.46] <@Omn1Slash> FUCK EM
[20:10.54] <@Omn1Slash> SEQUAL SQUEEZING
[20:10.57] <+Wae> its the perfect prequeal to the game made by 4 guys
[20:11.08] <@Omn1Slash> oh man I’m on a rampage now
[20:11.19] <@Omn1Slash> HEY HOW ABOUT LEFT 7 DEAD!
[20:11.26] <@Omn1Slash> LEFT 200 DEAD!!
[20:11.37] <@Omn1Slash> How about… CALL OF DUTY HERO
[20:11.58] <@Ohiodevil> wow Al…chill
[20:12.01] <+Wae> only if the wiirifle worked al
[20:12.15] <@Omn1Slash> MADDEN NFL-EFT FOR DEAD
[20:12.18] <@Omn1Slash> there you go!!
[20:12.23] <+P_Flux> I still play Master of Orion
[20:12.37] <+P_Flux> The original one! BLACK HOLE CREATER 4 TEH WIN!
[20:13.09] <@Omn1Slash> don’t forget the handhelds
[20:13.19] <+Wae> pokemon orange!
[20:13.32] <+Wae> or they going to metals since they did color the stones
[20:13.34] <@Omn1Slash> GUITAR HERO OF WAR CRAFT
[20:13.40] <+Wae> pokemon titanium?
[20:14.01] <@Omn1Slash> Prototype HERO
[20:14.13] <+Wae> half 4 strike
[20:14.16] <+Wae> source
[20:14.16] <+P_Flux> Al, put down the crack pipe
[20:14.17] <+Wae> !
[20:14.29] <+P_Flux> 2
[20:14.33] <+P_Flux> ROFL
[20:14.35] <@Omn1Slash> these bullshit companies are ruining gaming with their TRBL sequals. you should discuss that next week.
[20:14.56] <+P_Flux> The game wont be $100 bucks
[20:15.05] <@Omn1Slash> MODERN WARFARE 2, AKA our excuse not to call it Call of Duty but it will damn sure be the same game with new maps. and OH YEAH DOGS!
[20:15.05] <+Wae> hes using aussie currency
[20:15.19] <+Wae> but yeah starcraft 2 looks stupid to me
[20:15.25] <+Wae> blizzard lost me after the shit they pulled with war3
[20:15.33] <+P_Flux> Aussie’s have money? I thought they still used the bartering system
[20:15.37] <@Omn1Slash> thats because RTS is pretty much dead
[20:15.42] <@Omn1Slash> look at Command and Conquer
[20:15.46] <+P_Flux> I’ll give you 11 coconuts and a shrimp on the barbie for Starcraft 2
[20:16.01] <+P_Flux> Of course, in Australia. Starcraft 2 is actually Starcraft 3
[20:16.03] <+Wae> no its because blizzard used a shitty implementation that everyone loved but me
[20:16.14] <@UnknownGamer> Really al lets hear u say that when Starcraft 2 comes out and we see the sale numbers
[20:16.15] <@tas> prot current price for you si 3 goats an 2 fish
[20:16.28] <@Omn1Slash> I’m not saying the game will suck
[20:16.30] <+P_Flux> Heh
[20:16.32] <@Omn1Slash> I’m saying, whats in the genre righ tnow
[20:16.34] <@tas> :p
[20:16.39] <@Omn1Slash> who knows, maybe it will bring it back, it should
[20:16.42] <@Omn1Slash> I liked Star Craft
[20:16.54] <+Wae> thats the problem al
[20:16.54] <+Wae> first it was FPS then it went to RTS
[20:17.00] <+Wae> they genre got so saturated with shitty games
[20:17.07] <+Wae> but right now its Company of Heroes
[20:17.08] <@Omn1Slash> yeah, they squeezed it dead
[20:17.15] <@Omn1Slash> now the market is FPS saturated
[20:17.25] * @Omn1Slash calls up Justin Long
[20:17.30] <+Wae> yeay
[20:17.38] <+Wae> people stopped making stupid rts as often now
[20:17.41] * @Omn1Slash calls up Steve Jobs to hire another celebrity
[20:17.44] <+Wae> which is good
[20:18.00] <+Wae> ra3 really wasnt that bad it was more balanced than ra2
[20:18.10] <@Omn1Slash> I’d like to thank Harmackapedia.com
[20:18.11] <@UnknownGamer> Supreme Commander 2 FTW
[20:18.21] <+Wae> was never a big TA fan UG
[20:18.24] <@Omn1Slash> isnt that Square Enix made?
[20:18.32] <+Wae> i loved RA hated TA
[20:18.33] <@UnknownGamer> no
[20:18.37] <@Omn1Slash> are you sure?
[20:18.40] <+P_Flux> Hello yeah
[20:18.43] <@UnknownGamer> yea
[20:18.50] <+Wae> supremem commander is steampowered games no?
[20:18.51] <@JaK> [Orderly Chaos is playing GNET Radio THX Sound] [Requests: Off]
[20:19.10] <@UnknownGamer> THQ
[20:19.24] * JaK changes topic to ‘[GNET Radio is Online | Current DJ: JaK]‘
[20:19.25] <@JaK> [GNET Radio] Orderly Chaos is Off –> Coming up: JaK]
[20:19.30] <+Wae> ah ok
[20:19.37] <+Wae> thq who bought relic and screwed up dawn of war
[20:19.41] <@Omn1Slash> UG, I have an email from Square Enix that shows Supreme Commander 2 on their release calendar
[20:19.45] <+Wae> and sorta coh
[20:19.58] <+Wae> they probably bought the makers of it Al
[20:20.01] <+Wae> common in the pc market
[20:20.07] <+P_Flux> Jak = bitch
[20:20.11] <@Omn1Slash> was it formerly Eidos?
[20:20.16] <@UnknownGamer> They switched publishers yes
[20:20.24] <@JaK> [JaK is playing JaK - The Best DJ] [Requests: On]
[20:20.33] <@UnknownGamer> Gas Powered Games
[20:20.43] <+P_Flux> HEh
[20:20.46] <+Wae> yeah thats what i was thnking earlier mixed up names
[20:20.48] <@UnknownGamer> was with thq then to square
[20:20.50] <@Omn1Slash> hahah yep your right
[20:20.51] <@Omn1Slash> na.square-enix.com/sc2/
[20:21.10] <@Omn1Slash> wow now that is weird
[20:21.15] <@Omn1Slash> Square publishing an RTS
[20:21.16] <+Wae> didnt gaspowered used to be owned by MS or partnered with em?
[20:21.24] <+Wae> for dungeon seige
[20:21.44] <@UnknownGamer> yes
[20:21.55] <@JaK> [JaK is playing AC/DC - Touch Too Much] [Requests: On]
[20:22.18] <+Wae> so did anyone else bring up the #1 reason why pc > consoles?
[20:22.33] <+Wae> aka peer2peer aka bittorrent
[20:23.27] <@Omn1Slash> lol wae
[20:23.38] <+Wae> well ok think of it
[20:24.01] <+Wae> or is it do able on consoles now ? im way outta the loop
[20:24.24] <@Omn1Slash> you cant P2P on console but why would you want to
[20:24.36] <+Wae> to get movies and music and games
[20:24.43] <@Omn1Slash> the PS3 hardware blocks you from installing any executables
[20:24.46] <+Wae> all the reasons you said consoles were replacing pcs…
[20:24.48] <+P_Flux> Actually, my favorite reason for playing a PC game over a console game is that when it’s all said and done you can go back and do better cheats on a PC game
[20:24.59] <@tas> :p
[20:25.04] <+Wae> or completely remake the game pro
[20:25.05] <@Omn1Slash> I never said that consoles were replacing PC’s
[20:25.09] <+P_Flux> Yeah
[20:25.12] <@Omn1Slash> i said it will be unifued
[20:25.14] <@Omn1Slash> unified
[20:25.16] <+Wae> doom = doom3 = classic doom mod
[20:25.20] <@Omn1Slash> once stuff like OnLIVE comes out
[20:25.21] <+Wae> sorry harmack said it replaced him
[20:25.23] <+Wae> them
[20:25.53] <@Omn1Slash> one of the perks that OnLIVE boasts is that you play it on your PC or with your PC moniter, or you play it on your HDTV
[20:25.55] <@JaK> [JaK is playing JaK - The Best DJ] [Requests: On]
[20:26.19] * +Wae can do that now….if he owned an hdtv
[20:26.19] <@Omn1Slash> that unification will be that everything is serverside
[20:26.46] <+Wae> and its all rendered on pcs :-p
[20:26.55] <@JaK> [JaK is playing Europe - The Final Countdown] [Requests: On]
[20:26.58] <@Omn1Slash> hahah
[20:27.27] <+Wae> i mean yes consoles have come a long way they even used ps3s for a cheap supercomputer, emphasis on the word “cheap”
[20:27.52] <@Omn1Slash> its pretty much like this
[20:28.08] <@Omn1Slash> if you have money, and dont mind upgrading and you want one central 360 area for both gaming and PC based needs, go PC
[20:28.23] <@Omn1Slash> if you just want gaming with no added costs except software (pretty much) go console
[20:28.25] <+Wae> or make a yoshi bocx
[20:28.48] <+Wae> see al i could argue agaisnt that
[20:29.29] <+Wae> for a up front $500 or $400 fee and proper overclocking you can keep said system for the 4yrs + game fees
[20:29.29] <+Wae> cpu upgrades nowadays are stupid
[20:29.40] <+Wae> assuming you dont download too much porn your HDs shouldnt fill up
[20:29.48] <@Omn1Slash> you dont upgrade graphics cards every 2 – 3 years?
[20:29.53] <+Wae> nope
[20:29.56] <+Wae> you dont have to
[20:30.05] <+Wae> you can turn the resolution down a bit or turn off aa af
[20:30.08] <@Omn1Slash> I’ve seen UG upgrade his entire system twice in the 2 years I’ve known him
[20:30.08] <@Omn1Slash> lol
[20:30.13] <@Omn1Slash> now he is UnknownGamer…
[20:30.22] <@Omn1Slash> but still, Im as picky on graphics and HD as he is.
[20:30.25] <@JaK> [JaK is playing nickleback - Far Away] [Requests: On]
[20:30.33] <@Omn1Slash> just w/o the gigantic headphones
[20:30.45] <@Omn1Slash> hell I have a 82″ HD screen in my basement just for gaming.
[20:31.11] <+Wae> 82″?
[20:31.12] <+Wae> you buy a projector?
[20:31.14] <@Omn1Slash> yeah
[20:31.18] <@Omn1Slash> its beautiful
[20:31.26] <+Wae> yeah we used to do that for halo
[20:31.29] <@Omn1Slash> FF13 never looked so good
[20:31.30] <+Wae> its great
[20:31.39] <@Omn1Slash> well the demo at least
[20:31.40] <+Wae> cept hd projectors to make pc games look good were way to expensive
[20:31.56] <@Omn1Slash> I paid $800 for my projector and $200 for the screen
[20:32.03] <+Wae> what res?
[20:32.11] <@Omn1Slash> I should know that but I dont
[20:32.14] <@Omn1Slash> I’ll have to look it up
[20:32.19] <+Wae> thats also the big argument for console v pc really
[20:32.30] <+Wae> are all games up to 1080p yet? or most still 720?
[20:32.37] <@Omn1Slash> most games run at 720
[20:32.46] <@Omn1Slash> big budget games run at 1080
[20:32.55] <+Wae> see you dont need a high eng video card to run 720p
[20:32.59] <@Omn1Slash> half the PS3 games I own run at 720
[20:33.07] <+Wae> pc gamers are just used to running higher res
[20:33.37] <@Omn1Slash> my biggest reason for preferring console is the upgrades, and the controller
[20:33.39] <+Wae> i mean shit 720p was “high end” back in the 90s for graphics card power
[20:33.43] <@Omn1Slash> I admit, I dont like the keyboard for games and I never have
[20:33.49] <@Omn1Slash> but thats just me
[20:34.03] <+Wae> yeah thats purely personal opinion
[20:34.09] <+Wae> i mean i hate ps controllers but love 360
[20:34.11] <@Omn1Slash> yeah so I cant use that for argument
[20:34.16] <@Omn1Slash> see, I’m in reverse on that
[20:34.24] <@Omn1Slash> I like the 360 controller, but I like the PS3 one more
[20:34.28] <+Wae> you also owned a ps2 and not an xbox
[20:34.29] <@Omn1Slash> thats just personal preference
[20:34.37] <@Omn1Slash> I own a original XBOX
[20:34.44] <+Wae> oh thought you didnt
[20:34.47] <@Omn1Slash> I own every system from PS3 and back
[20:34.49] <+Wae> not sure why
[20:34.51] <@Omn1Slash> I own a TG16 lol
[20:34.53] <+Wae> ah
[20:35.13] <+Wae> it went for me, mom’s intelivision, nes, sega gensis xbox
[20:35.19] <@Omn1Slash> I dont own Sega CD or Saturn though.
[20:35.26] <@JaK> [JaK is playing JaK - The Best DJ] [Requests: On]
[20:35.35] <+Wae> with pcs all in between
[20:35.35] <@Omn1Slash> I’m not a Sega fan really at all
[20:35.47] <+Wae> i loved sonic and mk on it
[20:35.52] <@Omn1Slash> their systems were sub par with the exception of the Master System which was on Par with NES but marketed COMPLETELY wrong
[20:36.03] <+Wae> and at the time i hated all the jrpgs and rpgs on snes so i was fine with only missing killer instinct
[20:36.22] <+Wae> ionno sega channel was a decade ahead of its time
[20:36.23] <+P_Flux> This is a truly epic song
[20:36.26] <@JaK> [JaK is playing G Net Radio - Easy Listening. Yeah, Right] [Requests: On]
[20:36.31] <@Omn1Slash> Sega channel was not the first believe it or not
[20:36.33] <+Wae> and dreamcast had crazy txai
[20:36.52] <+Wae> i cant remember what the first one was
[20:36.52] <@Omn1Slash> actually Atari 7800 was the first console with a downloadable game option
[20:36.56] <@Omn1Slash> and I’m not kidding
[20:36.58] <+Wae> but sega channel was the more “main stream”
[20:37.05] <@Omn1Slash> it bombed, but it was the first of its kind
[20:37.10] <+Wae> yeah
[20:37.14] <+Wae> sega channel bombed too
[20:37.26] <@JaK> [JaK is playing JaK - The Best DJ] [Requests: On]
[20:37.27] <+Wae> but nowadays its suicide to launch a console without that option
[20:39.00] <+Wae> but for me console vs pc is a completely different arguement
[20:39.00] <+Wae> its solo vs group play
[20:39.25] <+P_Flux> Wow, forgot all about this song
[20:39.29] <+Wae> my favorite thing about consoles that a pc cant touch still is multiple people 1 screen next to each other
At that point the chat died down – now if only you bastards would actually call into the show with all of this
Nice show love the cat fight lol. However I have to say that consoles are not beating pc gaming in income. Pc gaming is wolrd wide and consoles are not. High production costs on are killing both consoles game devs and console hardware compies. Mircosft have lost about 10 billion on consoles and Sony has lost billion on consoles. Both those companies are in the red. 2008 is the only microsft was in the black for the xbox360.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/video-game-makers-seeing-red/
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/05/e3-predictions/
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Games/Pages-2/Publishers-fume-as-Gamestop-continues-to-sell-not-for-resale-games-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html
there is more problems on the console for game devs like rented games, the used game market and pircay on consoles. One more thing you can use elmutors to play any console games out there.
Oh one more thing I forgot to say pc gaming is worth over 68 billion compared to consoles.
Wow, some very good points. This is indeed a very good and heated subject. Both sides bring up very good points and I have a hard time picking a “winner” in this subject.
But things like the Natal might push consoles over the hump.
Edit: Also, sorry your comment got held for moderation, it was flagged because of your links
– I went ahead and forced it through though